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SunDog60 here, going to be working on decrypting the UrQa language and posting all my research here on the discussion page of the UrQa page until I'm done.

Notes on UrQa Things

Words

• Bana - It's possible that 'Bana' does not refer to 'Star System' and is instead more of a 'Camp', or main area for a certain place. For instance, in Mira, only the three boss rooms have Bana in their names, and in Nexus, the only star system there has Bana in it's name, Ur'Ziq Bana, as it is the only base of operations for the UrQa in the Nexus. In Iq' Bana, that star system is home to the UrQa, so it would make sense why it has Bana in it's name.

Ur'Ziq Bana

• Jujo'qii - Dropped a Sawed Off+, DG drop, it may have a DG drop table linked to it with it rarely dropping stuff off that table. It also dropped a Nexus Scion Augmenter later, and can drop Ujqii Damaged Plating.
• Kasa Qiii - Chance to drop Ujqii Damaged Plating, Urqa'Qii Drone and an Urqa'Qii weapon.

Iq' Bana

• While inside Iq' Bana, the wormhole to the next room is called "To the Queen", though the name of the next room is actually IQ'Qus.

UrQa Language

Anything with a ? at the end of it without a * denotes a possibly incorrect translation (if it ends with ?*, then that means it normally has a ? at the end), anything with (?) means the translation likely doesn't make sense.

All Known Words

Nargos Proposal

Excerpted from the forum dialogue of Nargos

If I had to take a guess, I would say that the urqa language is based off of words that describe things, or images, much like some asian languages do.

From what I can understand, it appears that Iq refers to oneself, while kii refers to kill. ur seems to be a direct form of saying "you", however by capitalizing the "U" in Ur, it appears to change the connotation to you'll. jij'uu is very similar to jiji'quu or even jiji'qa. As we recall, those are the names of a fire-like beam weapons of UrQa creation. jij seems to refer to holy, and such I imagine that jiji refers to cleansing, or something that bansishes evils, which from the UrQa history and attitude seems to imply that any other race is a subservient race, weaker, and possibly a agent of evil in the minds of the UrQa. From this we can also reference that quu and qa mean lesser and greater, which is why weaponry, or for that matter any sort of technology, is generally more powerfull with the transition from quu-qa in the name. It also appears the by following Ur with Kii directly, the meaning can be either kill or die, depending of previous sentances.

If we move back to the concept of imagry in writing, we can also see the connection between aku'qa and "my energies are great". The aku'qa is a rare ship energy created by the UrQa, and is quite powerful. This allows for the depection of great energy by one who refers to themselves aswell as the name in the same sentance. If we look more into the UrQa energies, we will also see a greater version of the aku'qa. Its name, blatently, is Aku'Qa. The captialization of the "A" aswell as the "Q" shows that it is more powerful then the standard aku'qa, as it follows the pattern of capitalization. In truth this "Aku'Qa" is a base energy, and is considerably powerful at that; Thus reinforcing my theory on how the great language works.

The repetition of Quu'Qa is something I have not seen before. As we can tell right off the bat, Quu'Qa also follows the pattern of first letter capitalization, or FLC, as I like to call it. This immediately tells us whatever it is its great. From what I can understand of Calypsos translation, Quu'Qa appears to mean weapon; or more specificly, powerful weapon. Since Quu'Qa is repeted in the sentance, it appears that it is a broad, singular meaning for weapon. By repeating it, it changes it to plural, by refering to more then one weapon; and, by following FLC, multiple powerful weapons.

Now, on to endings. There are 6 ending words, all with different meanings. Qii, Qi, Ka, Qu, Quu and Qa. Qii seems to refer to small, or smallest. Qi appears to be derived from Qii, and as such is to make one/something small(er). Ka appears to be singular, with Qu being double/dual/2, and Quu being triple/3. Qa simply appears to mean powerful, large or lots.

I must say, this language is one hell of a nut to crack, but I swear ill get it eventually! If I could only see more words in UrQa and their translation into english, I might be able to write out entire sentances in the UrQa language, without the aid of Calypsos translater. Suffice to say, I have much more research to do on the subject. I think I am going to translate this entire post into a word document, for future reference and study.

(Just to correct everything in this section. Jiji refers to holy, magic, but most importantly the traits holy and magic when used by UrQa denote the ethereal trait of those weapons. Q (u) and the derivatives Qu, Quu, Quuu are all forms of the word we know as Weapon. By adding multiple 'u' to the end of the word you are increasing it's 'power' [This works with any ending vowel]. Qa however IS a power modifier. Qii, Ka, Qo, Qi, Qa, Qa'ik are also all power modifiers. By repeating Quu'Qa, Quu'Qa I was just saying Powerful Weapons twice. Plural cases in UrQa are handled by using (')iii. Finally, I do NOT have a translator. I simply deciphered the language with the help of Thanar, or perhaps Thanar deciphered the language with the help of me)

Nargos and Simon Dialogue

Nargos: Hey, its hard to describe urqa in a few words.

Simon: Was talking to Calypso about it yesterday.

Nargos: And?

Simon: Ukukuu and such means fire, and the more uu's the more fire. But ya, Qii, Qu, Quu, Qa, smallest to largest.

Nargos: Actually from what I can tell, jiji(i) refers to heat and light, not ukukuu.

Simon: More like flame is what I mean.

Nargos: In all likelyhood, ukukuu refers to some sort of ranged weapon.

Simon: Yeh that's the litteral proof translation.

(Pause)

Nargos: It appears that ka, uu, and ukukuu are part of the urqa numerical system, being 1,2, and 3 respectively. Although this is unconfirmed, but all logic seems to dictate that.

Simon: 1,2,3, yep. Also talked to Calypso about that. The progression of the urqa shooters follows 1,1,2,3,5... next one would be 8.

Nargos: I'm not sure how the Urqa'ka and Urqa'Qii got their names. As UrQa is the name of the race... the meaning must change when ka or qii is added. Urqa'Qii could very well mean little urqa, which would make sense.

Simon: Qii means smallest, all of the Ur'Ziq Bana ships have Qii in their names.

Nargos: Then it fits. Ka must be a singular part of the syntax, also referring to one. Uu is the 2 shotter, and quu refers to moderate, that makes sense since it is a decent weapon. Ukukuu must be representative of 3, as it only appears in the 3 shotter. It is also followed by Quu, meaning it is the moderate form. By following Ukukuu with Qa, the meaning differs. It seems to indicate "powerful 3", which explains why the Ukukuu is actually a 5 shotter. I dont believe it actually increases the number from 3 to 5, but instead simply means it's more powerful than 3. This could mean any number greater than 3, 5 just happens to be the weapon.

Simon: Just for reference, in order: Urqa'Qii, Urqa'ka, Uu Quu, Ukukuu Qu, Ukukuu Qa

Nargos: So small urqa, singular urqa, decent 2, decent 3, greater than 3 respectively.

Simon: From my chat with Calypso, I believe its more of: small flame, singular flame, moderate flame, lots of flame, large lots of flame.

Nargos: Qi seems to refer to making something smaller. Also, Ur'Quan translates into "your masters", so Urqa just means fire or flame.

Simon: Another big part of it is that capitalization and location and presense of ' matters, so Ur'Quan, UrQa, and Urqa are 3 different words easily meaning, your masters, of your masters, and flame.

Some Stuff Calypso said

Just so you know, that name actually means something...

• Brings up his universal UrQa translator*

Ur Qok UrQa?

Ah, there we go. It reads, "Can you see the me?"

Illum: Calypso, let me have that translator :P

NEVER!

The UrQa Universal Translator is one the many Holy Adumite relics I stumbled upon when rummaging through an archaic compressed folder I downloaded from a website with the country code ".tz" And by stumbled, I thought I was downloading a keylogger / trojan combo so I could let my computer be part of botnet run by a 16 yr old from Korea. BUT, it seemed I was destined to download that file and come across these relics!

Iq kii ur, jij'uu! Quu'Qa, Quu'Qa. Iq aku'qa. Ur kii.

It was more along the lines of 'I'll kill you with holy fire and powerful weapons. My energies are powerful, you'll die'. This isn't exact, but the meaning is there.

So yeah, I did threaten didn't I?

But if I keep translating all this, you'll figure it out! NO MORE!

Calypso

need table for AI UrQa ships too